I’ll be live blogging the debate as much as I can here, at 9pm eastern.
As for expectations, I think Obama has to pretty close to close out this deal that he can be commander-in-chief. He’s already doing pretty good considering he’s ahead, but he risks having a lot of undecideds swing to McCain because of their possible uncertainty on that matter. I think Obama showing himself to be close to equal to McCain on the issue will be good enough. He doesn’t have to outperform McCain on foreign policy, but he has to stay close.
Meanwhile, McCain has to outperform Obama in foreign policy, as that’s his only strong suit left. If he can’t even show that he’s better than Obama on foreign policy, he’s dead. I think McCain also has to lay out, specifically, whether a) he wants a bailout plan and b) if so, what does he want in the plan or c) if not, what his plan is. If McCain cannot or does not answer that question, any questions about the economy in this debate will be a failure for McCain.
Q: Where do you stand on the bailout.
Obama: We have to move swiftly and wisely. I put forward proposals to protect taxpayers: oversight, tax-payers must get something back, no golden parachutes, help home owners. This is final verdict on economic theory supported by Bush and McCain.
McCain: I haven’t felt good about things recently, but I feel better tonight. Dems and Reps are working on plan together. Package has to have transparancy, oversight, options for loans to failing businesses. I went to Washington and helped bring House GOP into negotiations since they were left out. Still have work to do. Dependence on foreign oil.
Q: Where specifically do you stand on the plan?
Obama: Constructive work on plan, and work is being done, but there is no final plan to judge yet. I warned 2 years ago that we might have a problem due to the sub-prime mortgage crisis. We have to look at how we got into this mess. Due to philosophy that says that deregulation is always bad.
McCain: I hope to vote for the plan. I also foresaw this. People lack responsibility, and we have to hold people accountable in both Washington and Wall Street. People will be held accountable in my administration.
Obama: Yes, we need accountability, but not just during a crisis but all the time. McCain said 10 days ago that fundamentals of the economy are strong, and I disagree.
McCain: Main Street is paying a price for excesses of Washington and Wall Street. We need “consolidation” of regulations. I have fundamental belief in the American worker and the U.S.
Q: Is there a fundamental difference between your plan and Obama’s plan in dealing with the economy?
McCain: Spending is out of control. GOP went to Washington and Washington changed us. Earmarks = bad. I’m going to veto every spending bill across my desk with pork barrel spending. Obama has supported millions in pork spending.
Obama: Earmarks process has been abused. I have suspended asking for earmarks until system has been cleaned up. Earmarks accounts for $18 billion total in budget. McCain supports $300 billion in tax cuts to corporations. We have to grow economy from the bottom up. 95% of families get a tax cut under my plan.
McCain: Obama suspend earmarks after he started running for President. Earmarks are out of control, and it corrupts people. People are under indictment because of earmarks. Obama supports $800 billion in new spending. I want to cut spending.
Obama: I don’t know where McCain is getting his figures. I close corporate loopholes. I support reform of the health care system. Absolutely we need earmark reform, but eliminating earmarks alone won’t cut it by itself.
McCain: US pays second highest business taxes in America. Businesses will go to countries who have lower corporate tax rates. Earmarks account for more than $18 billion. I want tax credit for health care. We can’t raise taxes of anybody. People may be interested to know what Obama’s definition of rich is.
Obama: If you make less than $250,000, you will not have a tax hike. Yes, on paper tax rates are high, but loopholes make the rate effectively one of the lower in the countries. McCain doesn’t want to close the loopholes, but just to cut more taxes on top of the loopholes. McCain wants to tax credits. Employer has to pay taxes on healthcare you get.
McCain: Obama is talking the talk, but not walking the walk. Obama voted for wasteful energy bill while I voted against it. I’m the candidate who has fought wasteful spending. Let Americans choose if they want the existing tax code or a new tax code. McCain has voted to raise taxes on those who make $42,000 a year.
Obama: Under McCain’s plan, oil industry would get tax breaks. I tried to strip tax break breaks for oil companies from energy bill.
Q: As a result of whatever bailout occurs, what are you going to have to give up as President?
Obama: We can’t know what budget will look like, and some things will have to be delayed. However, I will not delay working for energy independence. We have to fix health care system. Have to invest in education and make college affordable. Have to rebuild infrastructure. Have to eliminate programs that don’t work.
McCain: Have to cut spending. Obama has most liberal voting record in Senate. I would eliminate ethanol subsidies. Have to cut out wasteful spending, even in defense spending. I know how to do this.
Q: Are there going to be no major changes in your plan?
Obama: Individual proponents of some of these plans may need to be delayed. Have to reform Medicare drug program. My being liberal is mostly my opposing Bush’s policies in Congress. However, I worked with republicans as well on issues, such as transparency.
McCain: Spending freeze on everything except for national defense, veterans, and entitlements.
Obama: Spending freeze is using a hatchet where one needs a scalpal. Some programs need more funding. Bringing Iraq War to an end will also save money.
McCain: We need alternative energy, including nuclear power. Also need offshore drilling. Obama opposes nuclear.
Q: Are you willing to acknowledge that financial crisis will change the way you deal with the budget
Obama: Let’s assume we get all $700 billion back from the bailout, we still have a hole in the short term, so yes, I’m going to have to make tough decisions. To make those decisions, we have to create priorities on what is important.
McCain: Obama’s health care plan would essentially nationalize health care. Spending has been one of the major problems.
Obama: It’s your President who has presided over this spending crisis – a President whose budgets you’ve mostly voted for.
McCain: I’ve opposed President on climate change, torture, spending, Iraq War, etc.
Q: What are the lessons of Iraq?
McCain: You can’t go into a war with a failed strategy. The surge! We are winning! Troops are able to come home due to surge. Defeat = increase in Iranian influence, increase in violance.
Obama: We should ask whether we should have gone into Iraq in the first place. I stood up against the war when it was unpopular. We’ve spent $600 billion, 4000 lives, seen 30000 wounded, yet al qaeda is stronger that it’s been since 2001. We shouldn’t hesitate to use military force, but it has to be used wisely.
McCain: Next president doesn’t have to deal with whether we win, but how we leave. Obama said that surge wouldn’t work, then said surge has worked but would still would oppose it. Heads subcommittee on Afghanistan but didn’t go for 900 days.
Obama: I haven’t had to deal with the war because the full committee deals with it. Surge has reduced violence, but it was a tactic that was only implemented because the previous 4 years were mismanaged. McCain wants to pretend the war started in 2007. McCain said it would be easy, there would be WMDs, and McCain was wrong on all of these points leading into the Iraq War.
McCain: Obama doesn’t understand the difference between tactic and strategy. I visited troops who told me “let us win.” Obama refuses to admit that we are winning in Iraq. We’ll also do a surge in Afghanistan. Obama voted to cut off funding for the troops.
Obama: McCain voted against funding troops by voting against a bill which had a time table, while I voted against funding troops by voting against bill without a timetable. The difference was over a timetable, not about funding the troops. We cannot win the war in terror while still fighting the war in Iraq. Troops should be phased out of Iraq in 16 months, while adding more troops to Afghanistan.
McCain: Generals have said that Obama’s plan is dangerous. Bin laden says Iraq is central front on war on terror. Obama’s plan would create a wider war.
Q: Do you think more troops should be sent to Afghanistan and how many?
Obama: Yes, and I’ve been saying that for a year. Violence is highest it’s been in Afghanistan. Can’t separate Afghanistan from Iraq. We have 4x more troops in Iraq, a nation which had nothing to do with 9/11 and didn’t have al qaeda before we entered. We also have to press Afghan gov. that the’re working for their people. We have to deal with poppy trade. We have to deal with Pakistan. We’ve kept giving money to Pakistan, even though they weren’t helping us.
McCain: I won’t washing my hands of the region, which was a mistake back in the 80s. I’m not prepared to cut off aid to Pakistan, so I will not threaten to cut funding. You don’t say that you would launch strikes into Pakistan out loud. Obama doesn’t understand that we need a new strategy, and it has to be the same strategy that Obama disses in Iraq. I know how to work with Pakistan.
Obama: No one has talked about attacking Pakistan. My plan is that if the US has top level al qaeda operatives in our sights, and if Pakistan is unable or unwilling to strike, we will. McCain lacks credibility on “saying proper things” when he talks about wiping out North Korea and singing songs about bombing Iran. Problem in Pakistan is we treated Mushariff as “yes, he’s a dictator, but he’s our dictator” and thus have alienated the people.
McCain: When Mushariff came to power, Pakistan was a failed state. I opposed sending marines into Lebanon when Reagan wanted to send them in. I supported First Gulf War. I supported going into Bosnia when many people in the GOP were against. I supported going into Kosovo. I opposed going into Somolia. I have record in being involved in national security issues. I have a bracelet from a mother of a fallen soldier who says to not let him die in vain.
Obama: I also have a bracelet from a mother who asked me to make sure that it doesn’t happen to someone else. No soldier dies in vain. The point is that we have to know when it is proper to send in the troops. McCain once said we can “muddle through” Afghanistan. You can’t muddle through Afghanistan.
McCain: Obama didn’t go to Afghanistan for a long time. If we sufer defeat in Iraq, which we will if we do Obama’s plan, it will have a calamitis affect on Afghanistan.
Q: How much of a threat is Iran?
McCain: If Iran aquires nuclear weapon, it is an extesential threat to Israel and the region. We cannot allow 2nd holocaust. Russians are preventing action in UN. I propose League of Democracy to impose painful sanctions on Iranians. Iranians have lowsy gov. and thus have lowsy economy, and we can impact it. Iran continues towards making nuclear weapon. Iran are sending IEDs into Iraq. People are being trained in Iran. Obama didn’t vote for making Republican Guard a sponsor of terrorism.
Obama: I believe Republican Guard is a terrorism organization. War in Iraq has strengthened Iran. Iraq was biggest balance to Iran. Policy over the past 8 years have “obviously” not worked. Obviously Iran can’t have nuclear weapons. We need tougher sanctions, but we have to have cooperative with Russia and China in doing so because. We need tough direct diplomacy with Iran. Isolation of nations has not worked.
McCain: Obama supports sitting down with leaders of rouge nations without preconditions, which will legitimize their behavior. I’ll sit down with anyone, but there has to be preconditions.
Obama: I reserve the right as President to meet with anyone to meet with anyone at the place and time of my choosing if it will help. Kissinger, who advises McCain, says we should meet with Iran. Without preconditions doesn’t mean coming over for tea. Preparation is not the same as having preconditions. Of course we need preparation, which will start with low level talks. Refusing to meet with North Korea also hurt the situation with them. Situation only improved after we started talking. McCain said suggest we might not meet with prime minister of Spain even.
McCain: Kissinger didn’t say President-to-President talks. Talking without preconditions legitimizes Iran and is dangerous. North Koreans has broken every agreement they have agreed to. We need to do Reagan’s trust and verify.
Obama: No one has been talking about starting off with Presidential level talks. We can’t expect to solve problems by demanding Iran submit to all our demands before we even meet.
Q: How do we deal with Russia
Obama: How we deal with Russia has to be reassessed. Going into Georgia was inexcusible. Have to affirm all fledgling democracies in the area. However, we can’t return to a Cold War posture. We have to fight nuclear proliferation which is a risk with Russia.
McCain: Obama’s first statement on Georgian crisis was that both sides have to show restraint, which shows that Obama is naive. I looked into Putin’s eyes and saw three letters: a K, a G, and a B. Incursion into Georgia was also about energy. Georgia has big oil pipeline. Very difficult situation. We have to watch out for Ukraine as well.
Obama: McCain is wrong to say I didn’t think invasion was wrong. We have to have foresight to anticipate these issues. I told Bush months ago about the Russian “peacekeepers” in Georgia. Yes, part of the problem is energy, which is why we need energy independence. But we can’t drill out way out of the problem. McCain has voted 23 times against alternative energy.
Note: Will McCain’s scoffs be the new Gore sigh?
McCain: Offshore drilling is a bridge. Obama doesn’t want to deal with nuclear waste.
Obama: I have never said I objected to storing nuke waste.
McCain: No one can oppose alternative energy.
Q: What is the probability of another 9/11 attack.
McCain: Much less than it was on 9/11. I helped bring up idea of 9/11 commission. Have to improve human intellegence. No torture. Improve intellegence capabilities. I know our allies. Safter, but still have a long way to go.
Obama: We are safer in some ways, such as airport security and securing potential targets. Needs to harden chemical targets, need to improve port security. Biggest threat isn’t a nuke on a missile but one in a suitcase. I support missile defense, but we’re spending too much on it. In the end, we have to go to the root cause, which is Pakistan and Afghanistan. The way we are perceived in the world will help us work with others. I’ll restore our standing in the world.
McCain: Obama says that missile defense has to be “proven.” Obama still doesn’t get that if we fail in Iraq, al qaeda will establish a base in Iraq. Having a timeline would risk all the work we’ve achieved.
Obama: This administration and McCain have been solely focused on Iraq while ignoring bin laden and al qaeda. We’re allowing China to influence areas of the globe that we are ignoring because of Iraq. Iraq is also impacting economy and our budget. We need to better fund Veterans Affairs. We’ve put all the chips in Iraq, to the detriment of everything else.
McCain: I’ve been invovled in every major national security issue of the past 20 years, and I don’t believe Obama has knowledge and experience to be President. Obama is like Bush in denying that surge hasn’t worked. I don’t need on the job training.
Obama: My father came to the US because he saw the US as a nation like no other, and our standing in the world just isn’t that good anymore.
McCain: POW! I worked on normalization of relations with Vietnam. I know how to deal with everything.